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Я сказал лучшему другу. Был уверен, что он не будет смеятся и поймёт. Да он отнёсся к этому более менее спокойно и мы больше этого не вспоминали... Правда потихоньку мы разошлись. Скорей всего из-за этого... Так что сказать ещё кому-то я не отваживаюсь. Не дай Бог чтобы узнал кто-то. Это самый большой страх моей жизни. Если кто-то узнает - не знаю что делать...


Не всегда друзья меньше общаются из-за ориентации, это во-первых. А во-вторых, у каждого человека свой процесс взросления, понимания жизни, трудности свои. Мы же все не одинаковы. И в третьих, не думал, что он теперь может полагать, что о девчонках его тебе теперь не интересно, и он сам тебе не интересен, и его проблемы тебе пофиг? Стереотипы же чорт их дери. Он может и не знает о чем с тобой говорить теперь? Ну не о мороженом же и погоде в 18 лет?
Я не утверждаю, но как вариант возможно и такое. Кто знает что там у каждого внутри? Мы и себя-то толком не понимаем иногда.

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Вот задумался- а так ли искренни наши родители в своей реакции на известие об ориентации сына/дочери? Искренни перед нами и сами перед собой?
Навеяно ситуацией с БФ, коего пытаюсь вытащить из аута вот уже второй день.
Матушка его собралась помирать. Предотвращая сочувтвенные возгласы, скажу, что делает она это с завидной регулярностью, что обусловлено гормональной перестройкой женского организма в определенном возрасте. Так что реальной угрозы никакой, но в оправдание дамы- делает она это совершенно искренне, в полной уверенности, что завтрашний рассвет семья встретит уже без нее.
В лучших традициях жанра- прощается и просит прощения у всех, кого поймает. В этот раз БФ не повезло оказаться дома в кульминационный момент. И "лежа на смертном одре" она попросила у него прощения за то (точность цитаты не гарантирую, но терминология та самая), что "ИСКАЛЕЧИЛА ему жизнь, и если бы она могла, она бы вырастила его так, чтобы он любил девушек".
Досадно, что вне критических дней она демонстрирует абсолютное спокойствие относительно его ориентации, хорошо приняла меня, даже порадовалась, что сын встретил серьезного человека, говорит, что гордится им и любит.
Парень в шоке, т.к. не понимает, как ему такому всему "искалеченному" теперь себя вести, получается, что все, чего бы он не добился- будет зря, подсознательно мать все равно чувствует вину перед ним.
Да и я по- другому на своих родителей стал смотреть- с подозрением, что ли...
Может, и правда, меньше знают- счастливее живут? Но как тогда объяснить многие вещи?


Вот это просто классика поведения некоторых мам. В данной ситуации не стоит заморачиваться. мама просто в своих внутренних проблемах. И поверь мне, будь у него проблема с девушкой или с женитьбой или еще с чем-то, мама точно так же бы себя вела. нашла бы повод.
Как пример - у моей тётки маман регулярно помирала, и устраивала ей показательные выступления на тему как она виновата, что у дочери нет личной жизни. при этом каждый раз ей эту жизнь на корню и рубила. Прожила кстати дама не 70 лет, а весьма поболе.

Вы просто помните, что ваши родители не только мамы и папы, а еще и люди со своими тараканами, которые им от своих предков достались. От личной жизни не ахти какой прекрасной.
Я понимаю, что трудно, но себя только укорять не надо. Если самоедством заниматься, то вы и себе не поможете, и им тем более.

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У меня мать себя так вела и до того как узнала, что я гей. Периодический истерики и предсмертные посылы, что мы "её в могилу загоняем". После того как узнала, все стало спокойно, в дополнение я огородил себя переехав и научившись игнорировать её истерики по телефону по мелочам. Только игнор спасет психику, никаких переживаний.

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Конечно стоит подумать, прежде чем сказать друзьям и близким. Но и тянуть с этим не стоит ... Если друзья близкие и далекие сравнительно легко это смогут пережить, то в отношении родителей энто надо взвесить
одно дело когда родителям от 35 до 55
и совсем другое когда около 70
а ведь к этому возрасту они вас будут с внуками и женитьбой допекать конкретно на грани истерики (что вряд ли скажется положительно на их здоровье) , а узнать правду в этом возрасте думаю для них уже смертельно ...

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Нет друзей и родственников - нет проблем Wink Вот я один во всем мире и мне конкретно хо_ро_шо. Чего и вам желаю.

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Тут ИМХО дело такое: свою ориентацию не надо ни особо тщательно скрывать (т.е. не играть типа в супер-агента со спец. заданием), ни специально афишировать.

А вот близким друзьям-то как раз сказать можно: иначе, что же это за друзья такие, если не поймут. Ну в общем, это своего рода проверочка такая для друзей. Хотя как можно не заметить при долгом общении - тоже не пойму. Ведь все при общении говорят о своих приоритетах.

Но, главное, дружат не по принципу принадлежности к той или иной ориентации, а за душевные качества. Иное - не есть дружба.

С родителями бывает сложнее: тут иногда попадаются реально упёртые...

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